Jul 24, 2012

Church of Laodicea - Purging and Division

I must remind all who read, I am not a Bible scholar - you can search these matters out yourselves and by all means provide feedback. I am only sharing what God has shown me in the visions/dreams with some scriptural references, when I get the chance I will go back and add more to the posts to relay them to scripture, as He leads/guides..etc.

The last post The False Church, was expanded on quite extensively in a series of what many would call "open visions" or "out of body experiences" - I don't know what to call it but it was more than a dream. Thats all I can say. It was very very real, very vivid. For many years, God "teaches" me things or shows me things by going to a particular river. This post actually covers more than one "visit" to the river, but tells a complete story. Think of it as episodes of a TV show, or chapters of a book.

In this particular vision or dream, I woke up in it.. hard to explain, but I was aware that I was in the dream, very cognizant of the fact that He had lead me here for a particular reason. I was walking when I "woke" up toward the river and He told me to watch and observe - so I did. This river had very tall wide and large banks around it, almost like a large ravine or canal. As I approached I noticed that the water had recently crested/flooded because there was debris among the bushes and the grass had a pattern about it that indicated the current had been up higher prior to my arrival. I continued walking down the embankment and I came across a large bush that had trapped within its branches a very large and quite beautiful fish. The fish had perfectly formed black and perfectly formed white scales. This is important to note. These were not black and white scales, but individual black and individual white scales. This obviously caught my attention and immediately the question popped up in my head as to what and why this was, what did it represent. The answer didn't come immediately. He wanted me to continue down to the water's edge. So I did. He told me to notice the current and how it moved. I observed the current and He caused me to look beneath the surface of the water. Below there were large rocks that had been worn smooth, and the current was the fastest in the middle. When I observed this and came to these realizations He then told me to notice the water along the edge. So I did. He wanted me to look closely. So I watched. What I noticed were swirls of water (like in most rivers or streams) and in those swirls I saw debris caught up and algae beginning to form as the water was becoming stagnant and not moving as quickly as it would out in the middle.

That was what I remember. As a few days passed I questioned God about all that I had seen. I wanted to know first about the fish that was caught in the bush. He caused me to remember my favorite book of the Bible, Revelations. I don't know the whole story, but He caused me to turn to the section where the letters were written to the various churches, in particular the Church of Laodicea. This is what I found: Revelations 3:1-21

To the Church in Laodicea

“To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.

Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.

To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

He was literally showing me this passage in symbols. So that I might understand "where we were today"...The fish represented the luke warm church. They felt they had need of nothing they had acquired wealth - the fish was beautiful and perfect in appearance. The black and white scales represented the lukewarm, neither hot nor cold. If the fish had been all black or all white.. He would have preferred it, "because you are neither".. This fish was literally spewed out... the flood of the river cresting had caused this to take place and this "lukewarm" church was purges. God caused me to feel like this was what was taking place somewhat on a small scale at the time, but I believe very strongly this division or purging will reach a much greater scale. I believe that we will begin (if not already) see a stark difference between His true followers and those who follow and worship other gods.

I realized that my observance of the current and how it was strongest in the middle, was to show me that we must be "in the middle" of Him, we must seek Him with everything we have - just jump in and go with Him! It is in the middle of this current, where we are "moved" we are carried to new places, new vision, new and renewed communion with Him. It is also the place where we are transformed... the rocks no longer had jagged, abrupt edges, the current had worn them smooth over time and the water flowed freely over them. Thats how it is in life you know? As our relationship grows in and with Him, the small stuff we are always sweating become so insignificant. We are molded and truly transformed.

The last part of this vision/dream - concerned the swirls along the bank. These swirls represented what many believe and hang onto as "moves of God"... this is a mockery of God, to continue to hold onto and to seek manifestations of something. It is NOT of God. Perhaps God performed a miracle at some point in time and because people are so "hungry" for something, they tend to "eat" anything and try to recreate it or actually worship it. It is true! The swirls contained CRAP and DEBRIS and the water was growing stagnant and going absolutely NO WHERE!!!! He clearly told me "Tim these are the people who seek the blessing but not me!" They die here and the never receive anything new.. they are stuck here going round and round and round. This is a very dangerous place to be! Again He emphasizes RELATIONSHIP with Him, or else we might just get caught up in this never ending cycle of nothing! Just because someone is acting like a fool in church, or someone is wailing out, or barking like a dog, or rolling on the floor like a lunatic, does NOT mean its from God, quite the contrary. Thats why we should seek HIM in all things. Just because it walks and talks like a duck doesn't mean it is! I could expand on this so much more, but you get the message.

God I pray for every person reading this post to have discernment, to seek YOU and YOU alone with their whole hearts!

I want to also link to a previous post regarding this "division" that is taking place here.

Stay tuned, more to come.


  1. Also... the water is "deeper" in the middle, and more "shallow" on the sides, so to speak. He calls us away from the riverbank, the edge, away from what's familiar, out into the middle. Where it's deeper. Just like Peter, our from the side of the boat, into the middle of the water. And I love how He used a fish to illustrate the other part, because we are Fishers Of Men! :) It's also interesting that along with that fish, there was ALSO "debris" that was purged, previously. Yikes!!!

  2. What a AWESOME revelation. God is so good to us bringing us to understanding