Jul 27, 2014

Kari Jobe Bethel Church Music- Forever Live (lyrics)

Such a powerful song. I especially shared it with a friend, with this message, but its for everyone: He loves you so deeply, so completely - His heart is on fire for each and everyone of us, no matter who you are, where we are, where we've been or how we got there... He absolutely adores us, He adores us!!!!!! He wants so much, so very much to be intimate with us, to be in each other's presence. To just sit with us a while, to be transformed and loved, and loved ...and loved..and loved over and over again! I really can hardly wait to see Him face to face. This Man who died for me, who has literally carried me for so long and for so far. The One who was made flesh for my sake, and knows me like no other, yet whose love is without waiver. He leaves me speechless when I recount His mercy and grace, His majesty and justice. He indeed is worthy of all my praise!


Jul 24, 2014

The Greek Word 'Glossa'

The Greek Word "Glossa"

Recently I've been compelled to speak out about a topic thats very near and dear to some Christians.  Its something that many have taught in the church as well as being a sign that one has been baptized "in the spirit".  Some even have said its a sign of salvation.

Like many I also was taught this was a sign of being baptized in the Holy Spirit and is considered one of the "gifts of the Holy Spirit".  I have been in services where this particular topic is "taught" and congregation members are told to have faith and to let the Holy Spirit give utterance and just open your mouth and let the sound out.  This is all done many times by demonstrating to others what "it sounds like" .

For years I have never felt what I have heard in Church past and present, is "of God" or His spirit.  

If we test things test the spirits against the Word of God then we must approach this topic with a resolve, that the Word of God is and will be the authority on this matter. 

I am not going to provide an exhaustive study on this topic but I do want to share what I have learned and what I am seeing over and over, yet so many people are holding so tightly to this practice.  They refuse to examine the Word of God in context and take the time to research or even pray to God about it.  The few times I have presented what I see clearly in God's word, I get an outright refusal to accept it or see it, or I am immediately persecuted by people who call themselves Christian.  It convinces me more.  

The first thing I looked at was the very word 'Tongue' and its original intended definition.  The tongue is used to make speech, to communicate and to speak in tongues would seem to say or convey the same intent, to communicate.  The original greek word that was translated into tongue in most versions of the scripture we see today, is the word glossa and means languages, not a mix match of sounds.  

Just by this simple revelation of the word glossa, which means languages and the context in which the word and discussion of tongues takes is very important .  What took place at Pentecost in the upper room, according to scripture and an understanding of this word, was not I repeat was not a bunch of people speaking gibberish. 

Acts 2:4-7 NIV  4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God–fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language. 7 Utterly amazed, they asked: “Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9 Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11 (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!”

The scripture clearly shows there are Jews from all over the land, all with different "tongues"... so when they spoke, everyone else heard them speak their own native language - its plain as day.  

So we can clearly establish that the sound coming out of their mouths was being heard as the sound of a known language.  

The whole purpose of this gift was to further the kingdom of God by sharing the gospel to break down the language barrier and it was a sign for the unbelievers.  But it did not involve unintelligble gibberish privately interpretated.  

I will interject here that many people consider speaking in tongues a special prayer language that only God understands and somehow correlate Romans 8:26 as biblical support of that notion.  Lets see what it says:  Romans 8:26
26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express.

What this says, is that in our weakness the Spirit helps us, because at times we know not what we ought to pray.  But the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express.  Lets repeat  - but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans words cannot express.  

That scripture does not say WE with our human mouths utter groans, or words we cant understand. It doesn't say the Spirit through us, our mouths and our voices, himself.... It says the Spirit intercedes with groans that words cannot express not groans or gibberish that we cannot understand.... or that can be translated into something understandable... This passage has absolutely nothing to do with the gift of tongues that we read about in Acts.  If it were so then the requirement of tongues having a translation has been made null and void.  Because there is always a translation or should be right?  And if we are going to have a translation then why speak it in a different language to begin with?  Makes no sense.  

Okay thats the first part -I will continue with it but I honestly want people to take a second look a closer look and really search the scriptures and pay close attention to what they really say not what you have heard in church all your life, no matter who you heard it from.